Roane County was once home to a famous systems engineer, the late Bill McCumber, Fellow of the International Council on Systems Engineering (INCOSE). What would the good professor say about the situation were he here today? (Scroll down past the photo to get the rest of the post.)

the late systems engineer and Roane Countian William McCumber
William McCumber
 

In case you are curious, systems engineering is the field of engineering that among other things deals with the making and execution of plans. In addition, systems engineers, who are tasked with coordinating the efforts of other types of engineers, are required to have knowledge of many engineering disciplines and scientific fields. Although one role of a systems engineer is project management, systems engineering comes into play long before the project managers start their work.

Again: What would the good professor say about the situation were he here today? Here's an educated guess from his long-time co-author and co-faculty teaching partner in graduate systems engineering courses:

We will need environmental, civil, and especially systems engineers to make sure the best engineering decisions are made. "Some knowledge of the problem domain may be useful, but is not essential. Profound knowledge of underlying technology will help and is essential."

We should start by creating an Operational Need Document (OND). An OND says "why" we need the plan, not "what" the plan should be nor "how" it should be implemented. However, an OND should include the boundaries imposed on the plan by legacy conditions (such as the ash mess, location of water intakes, as so forth) since these are an integral part of the need. (See (link...) for a short introduction to operational need.)

Before we make a plan, we really should agree on what needs or goals our future plan should fulfill. Not agreeing on an OND first is putting the cart before the horse.

Does Roane County have one or more competent professional systems engineers on this? On a project of any size--and this qualifies--systems engineering is needed. Systems engineering can help all the plan participants proceed with efficiency and reliability to fulfill the operational need.

Any plan that necessarily involves lots of engineering in an environment of regulation and competing interests needs to include experts in these areas.

Lacking the above, I suggest that according to systems engineering best practice, we start by trying to agree on a short operational need statement or document. It doesn't have to be complicated. It would be from a few sentences long to several pages. It would state clearly what needs this plan would be fulfilling.

It sounds as if it would be obvious--we need the mess fixed, clean air, safe water, compensation for all affected, minimized risk, etc.--but it can be harder than it sounds to agree on an OND. Try writing a sample one here on RoaneViews if you want to see what I mean.

A good way to start on one is to get representatives of all the stakeholders--citizens, land owners, business, county and city governments, emergency management, Swan Pond residents, water users, environmentalists, etc.--together with a systems engineer to work on a statement of need they can all live with.

One person whom the stakeholders trust to act on our behalf should "own" the Operational Need Document, so that there is order in its maintenance.

If we don't hammer out a need statement beforehand, competing visions of our various needs will seriously hamper later plans and their execution at every turn.

If the county has already made an Operational Need Document for this, I would really like to see it. If they don't have one we need to ask them why not and to get one now.

At least we can say we have been warned. Comments?

-- OneTahiti

A good Plan

I agree with this. I need to get in touch with an engineer who flew over the area and see what he thinks would make this a good safe project. There is a flooding problem right now because of the weirs and the ash in the main channel of the Big Emory. I wrote on the other thread that Tennessee Coal Ash Survivors Network could lead this project and help to bring the whole community together.

Our group strives to do what is right for the people of the community, to get this ash mess cleaned up, and help the people who are sick from breathing the ash since the spill.

Thanks One T

Just knowing what we need is a good and necessary first step.
It is too bad the good professor is not available. That kind of clear analysis is in short supply among our so-called political representatives.

Living and teaching Earth friendly sustainable agricultural practices.

Sounds like a good place to begin.

I hardly think that our leaders have created anything close to an OND, mission statement or wish list. I sure agree with the need for a systems engineer. Another thing that would help the effectiveness of a citizens group would be a prominent, non political spokesman who is comfortable in board level situations.

RandMart

I agree about the need for a "prominent non-political spokesman comfortable at board-level situations."

-- OneTahiti

Why not set up a dedicated blog site

similar to the site the Obama team set up during the lame duck period, for suggestions on what the petition key points should be. Our deal breakers. Then find consensus on the posts. Present the results at a public, prearranged meeting.
Who are our candidates for spokesman?

MacMurchadh

I agree that might be good. But we should do something else first. The point of my original post is that before we know what to petition for we should agree on what needs (and priorities for those needs) the points of the petition or plan etc. should meet.

-- OneTahiti

Here a few ideas...let's build on them

Petition For:
1. Immediate 3rd party healthcare screening for anyone believing they have been adversely affected by the spill. Results to be evaluated by a medical review board to be named.
2. TVA funding of a $10 million medical contingency pool for immediate and long term health issues related to the spill. Distribution of funds to be determined by an independent review board to be established.
3. Prohibition of any transport of coal ash on Roane County roads.
4. A comprehensive. independent study of safely storing coal ash on TVA land
5. Immediate and comprehensive testing of dredge related releases that may harm downstream ecology.
6. A long term plan to repair Roane County's damaged image.

Randmart, Those things would

Randmart,

Those things would be a good start. :)

-- OneTahiti

Dilemma

"3. Prohibition of any transport of coal ash on Roane County roads."

Some say "can't transport it."

Some say "can't keep it in place."

It's gotta be one or the other. So who knows precisely what is the right thing to do?

RB

Put it on the train...

...And send it back to its home.

TVA has now purchased enough

TVA has now purchased enough land to create a new properly designed landfill for the ash according to the EPA guidlines for a composite lined landfill. Seems like they can keep it on site and store it properly, now.

Let them do it, and let TDEC oversee the operation, with all of Tennessee prviding oversight, with the option to shut the plant down if things aren't done correctly.

Agree with WC

TVA has purchased enough land to store it on site now. The newly purchased land does not have any creeks or waterways. In the long run, it would be cost effective for them to do it. For the amount of money they would be paying the trucks, fixing the roads, and the eventual lawsuits from accidents that will happen if the trucks hit the road, storing it on site would be cheaper. Also, this land is only between 1/4 and 1/2 mile from the disaster site.
They can do this. But, they are going to have to drop their egos some and listen to those who do have good ideas. No, we don't make the big bucks that they do. But, we are just a smart. And it appears that we have something they don't; COMMON SENSE.

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