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Plants don't burn coalSubmitted by farmer leaf on December 18, 2009 - 12:31pm.
"A lazy mind should be rested, and the brain shifted into park." Okay I am back with my botanical question of the day. If plants (real ones, not misnamed factories) take in and convert CO2 to promote their cell growth, how is it that some people confuse fossil burning facilities which create CO2 as being plants? If your answer is; "well everybody else calls them plants," or "that's how TVA refers to their coal burning facilities," then please go back to sleep. Sorry to bother you. Change is the most difficult undertaking one could perform today!
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... the use of the word "plant" in the industrial sense is no new thing, and it was not invented by TVA. Peopple in the 40s and 50s referred to the installations in the Oak Ridge Nuclear Resercation as plants... e.e. "What plant do you work at?" "I work at the K25 plant."
In addition:
The words factory and plant often mean the same thing.
Although the word 'plant' as several meanings, in this answer we will just deal with its use when referring to 'industrial' matters. But first we will consider 'factory'.
A FACTORY is a building or buildings where something is manufactured, i.e. where manufacturing processes are carried out. (from Latin factor, 'maker')
PLANT, in the industrial/manufacturing sense, has two meanings:
1. machinery, equipment, and often the buildings etc., used in industrial processes, e.g. 'a manufacturing plant',
2. or, a factory!
The first recorded use of the word plant to mean 'the building for an industrial process', was in 1789. It was used in the sense of a building being placed or 'planted' in that place for that task.
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Main Entry: 2plant
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English plante, from Old English, from Latin planta
Date: before 12th century
1 a : a young tree, vine, shrub, or herb planted or suitable for planting b : any of a kingdom (Plantae) of multicellular eukaryotic mostly photosynthetic organisms typically lacking locomotive movement or obvious nervous or sensory organs and possessing cellulose cell walls
2 a : the land, buildings, machinery, apparatus, and fixtures employed in carrying on a trade or an industrial business b : a factory or workshop for the manufacture of a particular product; also : power plant c : the total facilities available for production or service d : the buildings and other physical equipment of an institution
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plant (plnt)
n.
1. Botany
a. Any of various photosynthetic, eukaryotic, multicellular organisms of the kingdom Plantae characteristically producing embryos, containing chloroplasts, having cellulose cell walls, and lacking the power of locomotion.
b. A plant having no permanent woody stem; an herb.
2.
a. A building or group of buildings for the manufacture of a product; a factory.
b. The equipment, including machinery, tools, instruments, and fixtures and the buildings containing them, necessary for an industrial or manufacturing operation.
3. The buildings, equipment, and fixtures of an institution: the entire plant of a university.
A quick search revealed these bits of information about the use and definitions of the word plant. One source is the Latin infinitive verb plantare which means that you put something in a certain place for it to be there and stay and function there. That easily relates to "plant" as a factory or use of the phrase "physical plant" or such as in talking about a colege or university.
And since the dictionary examples of plant included a power plant, and some power plants do burn coal, then it could be true to say that SOME plants do, in fact, burn coal. But the fewer the better :-)
RB
count on you to get to the "root" of this question. :-)
My old dictionary, Webster's II New Riverside University Dictionary - copyrighted 1984, does make mention of the "industrial plant" meaning, but with no explanation of how it made the transition from botanical to industrial.
I knew "plant" as industrial facility slipped into the lexicon quite awhile ago, I had no idea it was so long ago (1789).
I guess this slow drift from botanical to industrial usage might be called Lexicographical morphology. The Latin planta (shoot) seems like a long linguistic stretch to the usage of the example you provided -"K-25 plant."
Planted vt. is described in many different ways, however, it would seem less than accurate to say that buildings are planted or "set in place," unless we are talking about a house moving or a double-wide plopped down somewhere. In fact, land is often stripped of botanical plants in order to facilitate the construction of "industrial plants." Seems like pretty contradictory uses for the same word. No wonder English is perceived as such a confusing language.
Anyway, no one could reasonably claim you have a lazy mind, so keep the brain in gear.:-) , Thanks for the in depth info.
Living and teaching Earth friendly sustainable agricultural practices.
"I guess this slow drift from botanical to industrial usage might be called Lexicographical morphology."
Yep. The languaga slips and changes over time. I, too, was surprised at the age of the use of "plant" in the industrial meaning. I guess the closest Latin root (had to use that word again) that could more closely relate is the one I mentioned (plantare) in which the connotation is to set in place (more or less) for a permanent location. I certainly see your point about industrial plants displacing or stripping away botanical plants. Yet the implantation for the purpose of permanence (remaining planted there - as in he planted his foot) does hold true for even an industrial plant. Wow - so many facets to this one-syllable word.
I really enjoyed your use of the word "root." It's kinda cool since a lot of folks misues the word "radical." Radical comes from the Latin word "radix" - which means ROOT. Many times when folks use the term "radical" they're using it to mean that something is "far out" or distant from the core of the matter. In fact, radical means something that is related to the very basis, or root, of a given topic or concept, as o posed to something that's "way off base."
Language is a queer beast, fer sure.
In ANY case, I hope you and yours, and all your botanical and animalian denizens, will be able to have a very sustained and sustainable winter season, coming out the other end to a glorious springtime.
RB
Just like they called this disaster a "spill". Can't use Bounty on this. The "quicker-picker-upper" just won't work.